Republican government by necessity MUST remain small ish. And it bears noting that the Anti-Federalists were militantly anti-usury Dewitt Congress has direct power over the purse to tax. Previously in agricultural and quasi-anarchist societies, the commune or district mediated the tax burden between the man and government. They saw the president as always being buddies with the Senators. The anti-federalists predicted the rise of the IRS. And if it is a small area, then it should work. But since self-government is strained if not impossible over larger areas, then The Federalist becomes a manifesto for Empire.
As it stood the Anti-Federalist program, while godly and ensuring liberty, was inadequate. What is needed is something like the Russian-CIS federation, where a collection of republics find their leadership and direction from a larger, stronger republic like Russia.
The Anti-Federalist Papers is the collective name given to works written by the Founding Fathers who were opposed to or concerned with the merits of the United. Like the nome de plume "Publius" used by pro Constitution writers in the Federalist Papers, several Antifederalists signed their writings "A FARMER." While the.
Such a republic would respect the autonomy and culture of the smaller ones. However, today, there might be one: Russia, to go back to that example, cannot survive an economic war with the West. However, smaller republics like Kazakhstan and larger countries like China can band together with Russia in an economic alliance that would counter any move the Atlanticists make.
Russia, therefore, would have a vested interests in keeping the smaller republics strong and unique in order to form a counter to Atlantis. The parallels are worth exploring. Feb 27, Tony rated it it was amazing Recommends it for: Everyone. I enjoy this even more than the federalist papers, really interesting to anyone who cares about politics or the nature of political thought in this country. This is where it all started. Jun 28, Catherine rated it liked it Shelves: The Anti-Federalist Papers were written less in response to the Federalist arguments than I had anticipated.
The true discussion was between the Anti-Federalist Papers and the Constitution itself. The Anti-Federalist Papers were not less enjoyable a read for all that; in fact, they were impassioned, with moments of stunningly powerful rhetoric. Their downfall lay more in the repetition of or contradiction between the different arguments, the natural result of their not having been designed to be The Anti-Federalist Papers were written less in response to the Federalist arguments than I had anticipated.
Their downfall lay more in the repetition of or contradiction between the different arguments, the natural result of their not having been designed to be a cohesive whole, unlike the Federalist Papers. Moreover, most of their strongest points were obviated by the Bill of Rights, or have otherwise been addressed already. That being the case, my primary interest was historic rather than philosophic in nature.
The Constitutional Convention debates were a whole other matter though. I felt privileged to be able to hear both sides of every issue, to find out what the original suggestions for the union had been, and to see exactly what was compromised upon and for what reasons. Because this section of the book actually represented a conversation, I also got a better sense of the characters and motivations of the men themselves, thus allowing me to see past at least some of the accumulated prejudice of the 'founding fathers' I would argue that the anti-Federalists' papers are more important than those of the Federalists.
I predicate this on the belief that greater comprehension of the status quo comes through studying that which dissents from it. Believe that or not, either way if you had a teacher who forced you to read the Federalist papers and not the anti-Federalist papers, he was most assuredly a fascist.
View 2 comments. Reasoning more emotional than logical compared to the Federalist Papers and considering what we know of the complex workings of the world today. Sep 18, Murray rated it really liked it. Kind of tough to read, but if you want to know what went wrong with the country, it's that these guys were right. Aug 26, Alex Schwerdt rated it liked it.
Comparative Constitutions. Academic Search Premier. Storing, Herbert J. The Grecian republics were of small extent, so also was that of the Romans. Students can then construct their own questions to be directed to either side with the opportunity for rebuttal from the other side. Today students will participate as members of a critical thinking group and "read like a detective" in order to analyze the arguments made by the Anti-Federalists in opposition to ratifying the new US Constitution.
Finally finally!!! Finishing this was my Christmas present to myself.
Full or slow speed ahead! This was very interesting to hear the conversations that led to the final draft, but I found what was the very most interesting to me, was reading the last 8 pages with the amendments and their dates. I read part of this last year while I was on a trip to Philadelphia and I just geeked out totally. Otherwise very thought provoking.
Loved hearing how the constitution evolved to what it became and the reasons behind it But then I wonder how it could have been done better This all just gets the mind going. I'm very thankful for Hemingway. Jan 07, Talmadge Walker rated it it was amazing. A collection of various speeches and arguments that took place during the Constitutional Convention in , and the debates that occurred during the ratification process. Several things really struck a chord with me: 1 James Wilson of Pennsylvania had a much more assertive personality than he was portrayed as having in the musical ; 2 A common assumption among the debaters seemed to be that the Electoral College would often fail to provide a majority of votes to any single candidate for Pre A collection of various speeches and arguments that took place during the Constitutional Convention in , and the debates that occurred during the ratification process.
Several things really struck a chord with me: 1 James Wilson of Pennsylvania had a much more assertive personality than he was portrayed as having in the musical ; 2 A common assumption among the debaters seemed to be that the Electoral College would often fail to provide a majority of votes to any single candidate for President, thus sending the choice to the Congress.
This was before the advent of political parties. Viewed in this light, the EC is not really an important part of the electoral process, except to occasionally muddy the waters. Madison was appalled. The slaves of course could not vote, so they really had no representation whatsoever.
The only point in which an individual's right to bear arms is specifically mentioned the minority report from the Pennsylvania ratification convention goes on to qualify that right, allowing for the disarmament of persons "for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury Jun 23, Peter rated it really liked it. The new American republic struggled to devise a system of government that would work for the "average" citizen by creating checks and balances to each aspect of the federal system: the executive, the legislative, and the judicial.
The Articles of Confederation was first. Using that as a starting point, the founding fathers argued both for and against a strong federal government. The Federalist Papers contain the arguments in favor, and the Anti-Federalist Papers contain the arguments against. Af The new American republic struggled to devise a system of government that would work for the "average" citizen by creating checks and balances to each aspect of the federal system: the executive, the legislative, and the judicial.
After reading the Federalist Papers and living under the system it advocated , I expected the Anti-Federalist Papers to be the equivalent of the unhinged diatribes of today's political conservatives. What surprised me was the quality of the arguments against the new Constitution, especially the views and expression of Melancton Smith, some of which would probably hold water even now.
These were intelligent and well-educated people who had seriously considered how such a system would actually work in theory and practice, and what some of the potential pitfalls might be. Not all of their arguments are cogent today, but if you are interested in the history of the American republic and the way our federal government was conceived and carried into practice, this book is essential reading. Jul 03, Chris rated it liked it. This took a while to read but was very interesting. Though it felt repetitive at times the idea that there wouldn't be enough representatives in the House to represent the states' populations was a common refrain it was interesting how many of the objections brought up back then are still brought up today like congressmen and senators having no term limits or objections about states rights.
Favorite quote: "When the public is called to investigate and decide upon a question in which not only t This took a while to read but was very interesting. Favorite quote: "When the public is called to investigate and decide upon a question in which not only the present members of the community are deeply interested, but upon which the happiness and misery of generations yet unborn is in great measure suspended, the benevolent mind cannot help feeling itself peculiarly interested in the result p Feb 26, Nathan Larsson rated it liked it.
Very difficult to read and understand but also very interesting to discover more about the governmental beliefs of the founding fathers and what influenced them. The same goes for the Federalist Papers. Jul 30, Dana Powers rated it it was amazing. Nov 28, Isabel rated it it was ok Shelves: read-in , classics , school , history. This book was definitely not my style, as I don't appeal to such books. But overall seeing the cleverness of the writing was very neat. Nov 06, ELB added it. Had to give up on this book, my eyes not what they once were- the print too small.
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